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==Rivers demos, 9/97 Boston==
These are home demos recorded in Boston by [[Rivers]] on his DA-88 machine.
*"[[American Girls]]"
*"[[Rosemary]]"
*"[[Autumn in Jayne|Autumn in Jane]]"
*"[[Hey M'Darlin'|Hey My Darlin']]" 
*"[[I'll Think About You|Think About You]] "
*"[[Sheila Can Do (It)|Sheila Can Do It]] "
*"[[I'll Stay Right Here]]"
*"[[Longtime Sunshine]]"

==SPECIAL NOTE REGARDING THE 5 RIVERS "SOLO" SHOWS that follow below:==
According to various conversations with [[Rivers]] at the time, the new material showcased at these shows was both "in consideration for new [[weezer]] songs " and, paradoxically also "goofy country songs that are not weezer" (i.e the Rivers-fronted project band, [[Homie]]). While songs from both "bands" (Weezer and Homie) seem to be mixed into all 5 shows, the main pattern is this:<br>
Shows #1, 2, and 5 were primarily weezer try-out shows, all songs being either in consideration for use by weezer (i.e. "[[The Prettiest Girl in the Whole Wide World|Prettiest Girl]]", "[[Rosemary]]", etc), or actual weezer songs. Shows number 3 and 4 were Homie, containing new, non-weezer Homie songs (such as "[[Hot Tub]]" or "[[I'll Think About You|Think About]]"), and a few "bonus" old weezer songs thrown in for whatever reason, perhaps crowd pleasing. Anyway, its taken a long time to nail down this info, and thanks go out to many helpful detail-obsessed weezer fans... 

==Rivers "solo" live show #1 ; bootleg tape, October (?) 1997: Boston, MA : T.T. and the Bears (or Axis?)==
this was "weezer try out" show 1 of 3, this shows set included "[[Undone - The Sweater Song|Undone]]"

With Rivers, there was [[Mikey]] (of Chevy Heston, later to join weezer) on bass, Kevin (of the Shods) and Zeph (from Chevy Heston and Stompbox) on drums

setlist:

*"[[Rosemary]]"
*"[[1,000 Years]]"
*"[[The Prettiest Girl in the Whole Wide World]]"
*"[[Baby]]"
*"[[Fun Time]]"
*"[[American Girls]]" (this is the "hard rock" version. This one was probably the one that was bootlegged to an mp3. However, a nearly identical version was done at solo show #2 (below). Since the mp3 is so low quality, I cant tell which show its from. I am suspecting #1 because I don't think show #2 was taped outside of Rivers own DAT machine...)

==Rivers "solo" live show #2 ; Rivers home DAT tape, plus possible audience bootlegs(?), October (?) 1997: Boston, MA : The Paradise==
With [[Rivers]], there was [[Mikey]] (of Chevy Heston, later to join weezer) on bass, Kevin (of the Shodds) and Zeph (from Chevy Heston and Stompbox) on drums

this was "weezer try out show" #2 of 3

setlist:

*"[[Rosemary]]"
*"[[1,000 Years]]"
*"[[The Prettiest Girl in the Whole Wide World]]"
*"[[Little Sister]]"
*"[[Baby]]"
*"[[Say It Ain't So]]"
*"[[Fun Time]]"
*"[[American Girls]]" (this is the "hard rock" version, which may be the bootlegged mp3 version- see solo show #1 above)
*"[[Undone - The Sweater Song|Undone]]"

==Rivers "solo" live show #3 ; bootleg tape, 11/4/97: Boston, MA : The Middle East==
This was "homie", show 1 of 2

*"[[Autumn in Jayne|Autumn Jane]]"
*"[[Hey M'Darlin']]"
*"[[Sheila Can Do (It)]]"
*"[[I'll Think About You|Think About]]"
*"[[No One Else]]"
*"[[Wanda (You're My Only Love)|Wanda]]"
*"[[Sunshine O]]"
*"[[Stay There]]"
*"[[Hot Tub]]"

With [[Rivers]], there was Kevin Stevenson of the Shods, and ???

audience tape, decent quality 

there may be another audience tape of this show: note from "Skully", 2004: ''"Skully here, I found something really cool. A long lost bootleg I made at the Cambridge, MA rivers solo show. I think it was show 3, the country night. I thought this was long lost forever, but I got it, the entire set."'' 

==Rivers "solo" live show #4 ; bootleg tape, 11/21/97: Boston, MA : TT & the Bears==
This was "[[homie]]", show 2 of 2

*"[[Autumn in Jayne|Autumn Jane]]"
*"[[Hey M'Darlin']]"
*"[[Sheila Can Do (It)]]"
*"[[I'll Think About You|Think About]]" (AKA "Sesame Street") 
*"[[The Good Life]]"
*"[[Stay There]]"
*"[[Wanda (You're My Only Love)|Wanda]]"
*"[[Sunshine O]]"
*"[[Fun Time]]"
*"[[American Girls]]"
*Encore -- "[[Hot Tub]]"
*"[[No One Else]]"
With [[Rivers]], there was Kevin Stevenson of the Shods, and ???

note: audience tape, fair quality (occasionally overshadowed by audience yelling) 

==Rivers "solo" live show #5 ; bootleg tape, 1/14/98: Boston, MA : TT & the Bears==
This was "weezer try-out" , show 3 of 3

*"[[Rosemary]]"
*"[[Getchoo]]"
*"[[The Prettiest Girl in the Whole Wide World]]"
*"[[No One Else]]"
*"[[Baby]]"
*"[[Say It Ain't So]]"
*"[[Undone - The Sweater Song]]"
*"[[Only in Dreams]]"

With [[Rivers]], there was [[Pat Wilson]] on drums, Jake Zavrachy of Quick Fix and Boy Wonder, and ????

note: audience tape, decent quality 

==Fall 1997 Homie Rehearsal tape==
Currently the info of who exactly was playing on this is unknown.

*"[[Autumn in Jayne|Autumn in Jane]]" 
*"[[Hey M'Darlin'|Hey My Darlin']]"
*"[[I'll Think About You]]"
*"[[Wanda (You're My Only Love)|Wanda, You're My Only Love]]"
*"[[Sheila Can Do (It)|Sheila Can Do It]]"
*"[[Sunshine O|Sunshine Oh Sunshine]]"
*"[[I'll Stay Right Here|Stay Right Here]]"
*"[[Hot Tub]]" 
*"[[No One Else]]"
*"[[Longtime Sunshine|Long Time Sunshine]]"
*"[[Never You Mind]]"

==Winter 1997-8 : Various Rivers home demos, plus the unreleased "Homie" album==
Over the course of the fall and winter , [[Rivers]] recorded various demos, mostly intended for weezer, at his home in Cambridge MA. 

*"[[The Prettiest Girl in the Whole Wide World]]"
*"[[Lover in the Snow]]"
*"[[American Girls]]"
*"[[Rosemary]]"

Also, Rivers recorded a "pro" demo with a Ross Humpheries engineering. I'm not positive who was playing on this, it was likely the same folks as below on the [[Homie]] album project.

*"[[American Girls]] "
*"[[I'll Think About You|Think About You]]"

Additionally, with the help of "Fred" (from the Gigolo Aunts) on drums and "Drew" (from the Tracy Bonham band) on bass, he recorded an entire album's worth of Homie songs , I believe at Fort Apache in Boston. The song listing will be posted here "ASAP", as track sheets for the sessions have turned up. The tapes were never mixed down, however, so there is no listening copy available at this time. This session includes such "solo" show songs as "[[Hey M'Darlin']]" , "[[I'll Think About You|Think About]]", and "[[Fun Time]]". According to Rivers, he considers the recording to be a completed album, and at the time he had hoped to someday release it as Homie. 

==Early 1998: "American Girls" recorded for the "Meet the Deedles" soundtrack==
This was recorded in Boston at a "pro" studio, but I do not know where. This "[[American Girls]]" is quite different than the version that was played at the 'solo' shows. The older version of the song was a very up-tempo rocking song. When the "Deedles" version was released (on March 24, 1998), many were surprised to find that it was now a much slower song, smoothed out on the R-n-B / country tip with a pop feel appeal to it.

The line up of Homie that recorded this song was:<br>
[[Rivers Cuomo]] -- vocals, acoustic guitar, piano, lyrics, and melody<br>
Yuval Gabay [soul coughing] -- drum loops<br>
[[Matt Sharp]] -- co-producer and background vocals<br>
Sebastian Steinburg [soul coughing] -- upright bass<br>
[[Pat Wilson]] -- miscellaneous, drum playing (what got looped)<br>
Greg Brown [cake] -- electric guitar (lead and solos)<br>
[[Brian Bell]], [[Justin Fisher]], [[Adam Orth]] (both ex-Shufflepuck) and [[Todd Sullivan]] (weezer's a+r guy from Geffen ) -- backing vocals

==Radio station interview: aired 3/22/98  Modern Rock Live (Los Angeles)==
This episode of Modern Rock Live was known as "Deedles Night", and features an interview with [[Rivers]], [[Pat]], [[Brian]], and the two actors from the "Deedles" movie, who talked about the Deedles thing and the "upcoming" weezer "recordings for the 3rd album".... "[[American Girls]]" was debuted on this program. The mood was apparently euphoric, according to one fan: "they were all crazy and in the best moods I'd ever heard them in. Someone called in and asked about the S.T. and the S.G., and both Brian and Pat said that it "is all about weezer now" and that they were "done with their own bands".

(clearly this wasn't the case, as we shall see below....)

==Interview Videotaped for MTV, (taped january '98? ) aired spring 1998 - New York City, MTV studios== 
[[Matt Sharp]] and [[Rivers]] did an interview, that was mostly about [[Homie]] and "[[American Girls]]" and the Deedles soundtrack.

==Late February 1998 : Weezer records demos in LA==
*"[[The Prettiest Girl in the Whole Wide World]]" ([[Pat Wilson]] bassline version)
*"The Prettiest Girl in the Whole Wide World" (regular bassline version) (probably a different mix)
*"[[Baby]]"

contrary to conventional wisdom on the matter, it seems these 2 songs were given serious consideration for formal "weezer-ness" . They were practiced for a little while and recorded at "j.j.'s home studio" ........"j.j." being owner of a certain Hollywood rehersal space that the band often used at the time.

note that at this time the band had no bass player, as [[Matt]] had left the band late in [[1997]], and Try-outs for a new bass player would soon commence, ending with the selection of [[Mikey]] in early summer [[1998]].... 

==March 1998: Rivers demos==
#"[[I Got the Gold]]"
#"[[The Prettiest Girl in the Whole Wide World|I Got the Prettiest Girl]]"
#"[[Damn That Wine]]"
#"[[I Shot Yer Momma]]"
#"[[We Don't Wanna Be Cheated]]"
#"I Shot Yer Momma"
#"Damn That Wine"
#"I Got the Gold"
#"[[Everybody Wants to Get High]]"
#"[[Cheap Love]]"
#"[[Ol' Backwater]]"
#"Everybody Wants to Get High"

==Early summer- November 1998 Weezer rehersals and sporadic demo recording, with Mikey: Los Angeles==
After a lengthy process of trying out new bass players, [[Mikey]] was finally installed by summertime.

While master tapes of lots of demos recorded during this period do exist after all, none have been mixed down to a listenable format to date. This section should get a lot bigger when that happens, as there are many hours of tapes to go through.

The bulk of these recordings were done at TK Rehearsals on L.A.'s west side. There also exists a rather rambling tape of just [[Rivers]] at TK brainstorming on a bunch of song ideas. However this is not listed here as the tape is very confusing and there are few complete ideas on it. 

According to conversations with band members, I estimate as many as 50 or more practiced, demo'd songs to exist. However, at this writing, only a small amount is known. Some of the songs were 100% Rivers's writing, some were jam session collaborations, some were [[Patrick Wilson|Pats]] (later pulled back for [[The Special Goodness|the Special Goodness]]), and some were [[Brian Bell|Brians]] (see below for a recording session of his songs.) 

a few known titles from this period:

*"[[Damn That Wine]]"
*"[[Ol' Backwater]]"
*"[[Everyone]]"

...of the multiple songs of Rivers's, there are 2 known (non-final) titles. These songs come from later in the summer of '98, when Rivers started writing heavier and heavier material. 

*«[[I Have to Kill You]]»
*«[[Turn it Off Now]]»

==June + July 1998: "TKX" demos Rivers demos at TK Productions in West L.A., and that the "X" refers to a particular influence on the demos.==

===Set 1===
81 tracks, all unfinished "sketches" recorded into a hand-held recorder. Some developed into songs later, but none survived as far as ''[[The Green Album]]''. (However one, "[[Cherry Berry|Cheri Berry]]" did make it as far as the voting process early in the track choosing for the Green Album sessions. It didn't make it, despite being considered a fine song by the band.)

===Set 2===
These were developed into full songs.
#"[[You Lied to Us]]"
#"[[I Love This Band]]"
#"[[I Don't Wanna Bust My Heart]]"
#"[[Everybody's Thinkin' Too Much]]"
#"[[With My Own Two Hands]]"
#"[[There's a Bomb in the Air]]"
#"[[Why Did You Give Up?]]"
#"[[I Needed You Now]]"

==August 1998 : "Velouria" recording session, Mouse House Studios, Los Angeles==
This recording session yielded "[[Velouria]]", for the Pixies tribute CD ''[[Where Is My Mind? A Tribute To The Pixies|Where Is My Mind?]]'', which was released in early [[1999]]. Several songs were also recorded, but apparently the "non-Velourias" didn't come out too good. This is apparently due to the songs being somewhat unfinished at the time of recording (thus really being demos.) mixes from the session:
#"[[Everyone]]"
#"[[Trampoline]]" ("sped up")
#Trampoline ("normal")
#"[[Disco Queen]]"
#"[[Velouria]]" (released on ''Where Is My Mind?'' [[Mikey Welsh|Mikey's]] 1st released track with [[weezer]]) 

mystery tracks:<br>
These titles appear on a cassette from this time but it is unclear if they are misnamed or changed titles from the above 5 songs - or totally seperate tracks from another session around that time. 

*"[[Every Man]]"
*"[[Sunshine]]" (Sludge Version)

==Fall(?)1998 "Random Demos"==
these demos seem like full band recordings from their sound...its possible that these were also recorded at "j.j's" home studio

*"[[Sunshine]]" (Sludge Version) (apparently a separate recording from above version - but not confirmed either way) 
*"[[Girls Soccer]]"
*"[[Average Town]]"
*"[[Crazy One]]"

==Late Summer 1998: Demo of Brian's songs (not really Weezer nor Space Twins)==
[[Brian]] had 4 songs that everyone enjoyed playing at rehersal. When it was suggested that they could record these as a demo, [[Rivers]] decided that he didn't want to do them for [[weezer]]. So [[Pat]] and [[Mikey]] played on it and it became a kind of [[Space Twins]] demo that sounds like weezer playing the songs. Details on this should come when the summer/fall 1998 tapes are examined at last.

* "[[Butterfly Collector]]" (later softened and changed and turned into a Space Twins song)
* "[[Seventeen]]" (later softened and changed and turned into a Space Twins song)
* ? 
* ? 

==Fall 1998 : more Weezer demos==
* "[[Do it Again]]" 9/24/98 
* "[[Everybody Wants to Get High]]" 9?/?/98 

the above 2 songs fall in right about the time [[Pat Wilson]] packed up and went back to Portland, unsatisfied with how rehearsals were going. [[Mikeys]] friend [[Todd Phillips]] (also an alumnus of {{PN|Juliana Hatfield}} band) filled in on drums from then until early 1999 (when rehearsals were finally put on hold), and also played in the 2 Goat Punishment shows (see below).

further demos late 1998:

*untitled 12/3/98 ("1/2 song") 
*untitled 12/10/98 ("1/2 song") 
*"[[Bon Fire]]" 12/14/98 
*"[[Average Town]]" 12/14/98 

==Fall 1998: Rivers and Mikey TV appearence==
In what may likely be the most regretful public appearence in the band's career, [[Rivers]] and [[Mikey]] appeared on an episode of the public access(??) local L.A. tv show, ''Colin's Sleazy Friends''. Aside from sitting there looking amused and confused, they contributed only minorly to a show widely considered to be an obnoxious waste of airtime. They were encouraged by the host to converse with and comment on the stripper guests, and they gave it an attempt. This episode was unfortunately included on the ''Colin's Sleazy Friends'' DVD collection.

==Winter 1998-1999 : Goat Punishment==
after a few months, the increasingly sporadic rehersals took a turn, when [[Goat Punishment]] was spontaneously formed, in order to play a whole show of early [[Nirvana]] material. It is still unclear as to why this happened, outside of perhaps a primal need to break up the monotony and get inspired. As far as I know, no rehearsals were taped...

===show #1, Hollywood, CA===
set consisted of several songs from the album ''Bleach'', plus a track or two from ''Incesticide'' and ''Nevermind''

Band's own cassette bootleg: 

*"[[Mr. Moustache]]"
*"[[Aneurysm]]"
*"[[Breed]]"
*"[[Dive]]"
*"[[Swap Meet]]"
*"[[Blew]]"

The Word from Dale Johnson (the student engineer of the "[[Jamie]]" session at LMU) "FYI, I was also one of the promoters of the club that Goat Punishment did their first "secret" show at in 1998. I did a club with my partner's Frank Rodriguez and Vaginal Davis called Club Sucker, which took place every Sunday night at the Garage from 1995 thru 2000. Our pals OtherStarPeople were playing and I guess the Goat Punishment thing happened via Todd Phillips and [[Mikey Welsh]] being old Boston buds and ex-members of the [[Juliana Hatfield]] band. Anyways, the show was great....I'm glad someone recorded it for posterity and you have mp3's available on the website. "

===show #2, Santa Barbara, CA===
was to be a well attended show (the word got out), but police came and kicked all out except for about 20-40 kids: set consisted of [[Oasis]] songs from their first album. Sadly, it seems that NO ONE recorded this show!


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