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==spring 1999==
==spring 1999==
By this point, for whatever reason(s), not much was happening in rehersals, and they werent happening with much frequency. Management, concerned at spiralling costs of production without a known product (very little music was leaked out of the rehersals, leading people in various offices to worry that there was no music to justify the expenses) suggested that the band simply take a break until things started to move again. Pat, already excited to work on the Special Goodness, welcomed this. Brian used his time to write Space Twins songs and play shows with both his Space Twins and another L.A band, Mephisto, while Mikey was a bit confused as to what to do, having dropped everything to join the band a year earlier.  
By this point, for whatever reason(s), not much was happening in rehersals, and they werent happening with much frequency. Management, concerned at spiralling costs of production without a known product (very little music was leaked out of the rehearsals, leading people in various offices to worry that there was no music to justify the expenses) suggested that the band simply take a break until things started to move again. [[Pat]], already excited to work on the [[Special Goodness]], welcomed this. [[Brian]] used his time to write [[Space Twins]] songs and play shows with both his Space Twins and another L.A band, Mephisto, while [[Mikey]] was a bit confused as to what to do, having dropped everything to join the band a year earlier.  


Mikey had been writing bass lines during the months of spring 1999, originally offering these to Rivers for new song ideas, but Rivers didnt make use of them. When it became clear that rehersals were to be suspended indefinately, Mikey offered them to his then-friend and ex-bandmate Juliana Hatfield, and they ended up recording her new cd together in Boston in summer 1999. This album was released on Island Records as "Juliana's Pony" in 2000.  
Mikey had been writing bass lines during the months of spring [[1999]], originally offering these to Rivers for new song ideas, but Rivers didnt make use of them. When it became clear that rehersals were to be suspended indefinately, Mikey offered them to his then-friend and ex-bandmate Juliana Hatfield, and they ended up recording her new cd together in Boston in summer 1999. This album was released on Island Records as "Juliana's Pony" in 2000.  


==RIVERS'S 1999 DEMOS==
==RIVERS'S 1999 DEMOS==
Throughout the course of 1999, Rivers embarked on a whole series of new demo recordings, in a major attempt to focus on songwriting like never before. By the end of the year, 121 songs had been written, though only ones that got past an experimental stage actually got on tape as a demo. These are listed below. Note that for each one of the songs in this list, at least 5-15 demo versions were recorded, as changes were made. The following list is a fairly chronological account of what Rivers was doing for much of the year.  
Throughout the course of 1999, [[Rivers]] embarked on a whole series of new demo recordings, in a major attempt to focus on songwriting like never before. By the end of the year, 121 songs had been written, though only ones that got past an experimental stage actually got on tape as a demo. These are listed below. Note that for each one of the songs in this list, at least 5-15 demo versions were recorded, as changes were made. The following list is a fairly chronological account of what Rivers was doing for much of the year.  
Rivers Demos at TK Productions, early 1999:
===Rivers Demos at TK Productions, early 1999===
#Socialite
#"[[Socialite]]"
#Crazy One
#"[[Crazy One]]"
#Riff In G#
#Riff In G#
#Sunshine
#"[[Sunshine]]"
#E - A Riff
#E - A Riff
#Stars Shine Bright (Goodnight)
#"[[Stars Shine Bright (Goodnight)]]"
#Saturday Night Another City Dream
#"[[Saturday Night Another City Dream]]"
#It Feels Good (Finger Burns) (error in master recording)
#"[[It Feels Good (Finger Burns)]]" (error in master recording)
#How Many Places  
#"[[How Many Places]]"
 
===Rivers demos at unknown locations, spring - winter 1999===
Rivers demos at unknown locations, spring - winter 1999:
*"[[I Want You]]"
 
*"[[Doorbell]]"
*I Want You  
*"[[Sunshine]]"
*Doorbell  
*"[[Bonfire]]"
*Sunshine  
*"[[Go Leia]]"
*Bonfire  
*"[[O.G.'s]]"
*Go Leia  
*"[[Kitty Pettin']]"
*O.G.'s  
*"[[Hey, Hey, Hey]]"
*Kitty Pettin'  
*"[[Movie Theater]]"
*Hey, Hey, Hey  
*"[[Mergatroid]]"
*Movie Theater  
*Mergatroid  
*(untitled)  
*(untitled)  
*Pisspot  
*"[[Pisspot]]"
*Open Your Arms  
*"[[Open Your Arms]]"
*Old Man Time  
*"[[Old Man Time]]"
*(untitled)  
*(untitled)  
*She Won't Do It  
*"[[She Won't Do It]]"
*Turn Your Love Away  
*"[[Turn Your Love Away]]"
*Girlfriend (note: not 'o girlfirend' or 'o girl')  
*"[[Girlfriend]]" (note: not "[[O Girlfriend]]" or "[[O Girl]]")  
*Evil  
*"[[Evil]]"
*Daddy's Girl  
*"[[Daddy's Girl]]"
*The Black rider
*"[[The Black Rider]]"
*Sumeria  
*"[[Sumeria]]"
*Sickboy  
*"[[Sickboy]]"
*Don't You Criticize  
*"[[Don't You Criticize]]"
*Attack, Attack  
*"[[Attack, Attack]]"
*Midwife  
*"[[Midwife]]"
*Alpha-Beta  
*"[[Alpha-Beta]]"
*Labrador  
*"[[Labrador]]"
*Genie  
*"[[Genie]]"
*Neto  
*"[[Neto]]"
*Fits In The Blood  
*"[[Fits in the Blood]]"
*Cold and Damp  
*"[[Cold and Damp]]"
*Hospital Error  
*"[[Hospital Error]]"
*Stand Up and Fight  
*"[[Stand Up and Fight]]"
*Robinson's May  
*"[[Robinson's May]]"
*Shout It Out  
*"[[Shout It Out]]"
*Ask Me Anything  
*"[[Ask Me Anything]]"
*Destination take Me Home  
*"[[Destination take Me Home]]"
*And If You Go It's Natural  
*"[[And If You Go It's Natural]]"
*Valley Forge  
*"[[Valley Forge]]"
*Ayleen  
*"[[Ayleen]]"
*Down Down Diggity  
*"[[Down Down Diggity]]"
*Suicide Pilot  
*"[[Suicide Pilot]]"
*Been Down To Jesus  
*"[[Been Down to Jesus]]"
*Congratulations  
*"[[Congratulations]]"
*Sepultura  
*"[[Sepultura]]"
*Roomate (original of "New Joint")  
*"[[New Joint|Roomate]]" (original of "New Joint")  
*Kiliminjaro  
*"[[Kiliminjaro]]"
*Weapons Expert  
*"[[Weapons Expert]]"
*Jimmy McFarlane  
*"[[Jimmy McFarlane]]"
*In The Night  
*"[[In The Night]]"
*Memphis  
*"[[Memphis]]"
*Somebody Save Me  
*"[[Somebody Save Me]]"
*Homeless  
*"[[Homeless]]"
*Sixth Xmas  
*"[[Sixth Xmas]]"
*My Brain  
*"[[My Brain Is Working Overtime|My Brain]]"
*Phlegm Man  
*"[[Phlegm Man]]"
*Stupendous  
*"[[Stupendous]]"
*Greyhound  
*"[[Greyhound]]"
*One More Time  
*"[[One More Time]]"
*French Pop  
*"[[French Pop]]"
*Island In The Sun  
*"[[Island in the Sun]]"
*Anyway The Wind  
*"[[Anyway the Wind]]"
*Somebody Killed Me  
*"[[Somebody Killed Me]]"
*Somebody Tell Me Why  
*"[[Somebody Tell Me Why]]"
*Always  
*"[[Always]]"
*Jodi  
*"[[Jodi]]"
*So You Sense It's a Sad Situation  
*"[[So You Sense It's a Sad Situation]]"
*C'mon Siobhan  
*"[[C'mon Siobhan]]"
*Our Heaven's Son  
*"[[Our Heaven's Son]]"
*You Got Me  
*"[[You Got Me]]"
*I Hip  
*"[[I Hip]]"
*Left Foot Down
*"[[Left Foot Down]]"


==Rivers demos - assorted dates - "Egmbedeie Molaictium"==
===Rivers demos - assorted dates - "Egmbedeie Molaictium"===
This is a set of demos that appaently was an amalgamation of several additional "TKX" tracks from sometime in 1998, plus a bunch of 1999 demos and even a few early 2000 ones. Why they were grouped together like this is unknown, and they are being kept together on this list for clarity, for now.<br>
This is a set of demos that apparently was an amalgamation of several additional "TKX" tracks from sometime in 1998, plus a bunch of 1999 demos and even a few early 2000 ones. Why they were grouped together like this is unknown, and they are being kept together on this list for clarity, for now.<br>
1,2, and 8 = "tkx 1998" 3 - 7 and 10 - 22 = 1999 and 2000  
1,2, and 8 = "tkx 1998" 3 - 7 and 10 - 22 = 1999 and 2000  


#I Dont Need You
#"[[I Dont Need You]]"
#It Used To Be Mine
#"[[It Used to Be Mine]]"
#Heavy Metal
#"[[Heavy Metal]]"
#Heavy Metal
#"Heavy Metal"
#Heavy Metal
#"Heavy Metal"
#Heavy Metal
#"Heavy Metal"
#Heavy Metal
#"Heavy Metal"
#I'm Such A Little Bitch
#"[[I'm Such a Little Bitch]]"
#Full Instrumental
#"[[Full Instrumental]]"
#I Wanted To Know
#"[[I Wanted to Know]]"
#There's A Lucky One
#"[[There's a Lucky One]]"
#Smokin' Crack
#"[[Smokin' Crack]]"
#Let It All Hang Out
#"[[Let it All Hang Out]]"
#Dumb
#"[[Dumb]]"
#Stop, Drop
#"[[Stop, Drop]]"
#Hold My Mind
#"[[Hold My Mind]]"
#|A BG|G |
#|A BG|G |
#Stay
#"[[Stay]]"
#You Wanna' Be
#"[[You Wanna' Be]]"
#Average Town
#"[[Average Town]]"
#Hey Angel
#"[[Hey Angel]]"
#Everybody Waits
#"[[Everybody Waits]]"


==Winter - Spring 1999==
==Winter - Spring 1999==
Pat helps out his old friend Pat Finn, by playing drums on Finn's new demos for his band "Organic Mechanic". they did about 6 songs together, some on several different occasions. Since that time, Pat Finn has assembled a full band and has recorded a full album, to be independently released in spring 2001. The demos that Wilson played on will likely stay under wraps.  
[[Pat]] helps out his old friend [[Pat Finn]], by playing drums on Finn's new demos for his band "[[Organic Mechanic]]". they did about 6 songs together, some on several different occasions. Since that time, Pat Finn has assembled a full band and has recorded a full album, to be independently released in spring 2001. The demos that Wilson played on will likely stay under wraps.  


==Spring 1999: (4/14/99) The Rentals "Seven More Minutes" released==
==Spring 1999: (4/14/99) The Rentals "Seven More Minutes" released==
After endless delays, some caused by Matt as he kept remixing and modifying songs throughout 1998, and some caused by his label Maverick, who kept holding things up by requesting that Matt change things that Matt refused to change, Maverick released "7MM" to a small enthusiastic audience, that failed to grow due to Maverick's mysterious sudden lack of promotional muscle. An unfortunate anti-climactic result to Matt's 3 years of work, but a fine album nonetheless!
After endless delays, some caused by [[Matt]] as he kept remixing and modifying songs throughout 1998, and some caused by his label Maverick, who kept holding things up by requesting that Matt change things that Matt refused to change, Maverick released ''[[Seven More Minutes|7MM]]'' to a small enthusiastic audience, that failed to grow due to Maverick's mysterious sudden lack of promotional muscle. An unfortunate anti-climactic result to Matt's 3 years of work, but a fine album nonetheless!


I don't have info as to Matt's remixing and various small re-recording sessions throughout 1998 and early 1999, I only know he did a ton of them, mostly in LA.
I don't have info as to Matt's remixing and various small re-recording sessions throughout 1998 and early 1999, I only know he did a ton of them, mostly in LA.


==Spring 1999: Special Goodness demos:==
==Spring 1999: Special Goodness demos:==
*B.S.  
*"[[B.S.]]"
*its only natural
*"[[It's Only Natural]]"
*each other
*"[[Each Other]]"
*somebody else
*"[[Somebody Else]]"
*what youre on
*"[[What You're On]]"
*reason to worry
*"[[Reason to Worry]]"
*what you can forget
*"[[What You Can Forget]]"


...all recorded by Pat, direct to laptop computer in a spare bedroom at his house in Portland  
...all recorded by [[Pat]], direct to laptop computer in a spare bedroom at his house in Portland  


note that 4 of these songs ended up on a special 20-25 CD run of cd-r's that were sent out to various venues, in the process of booking the fall 1999 SG tour. Those cd-r's have the 10 songs from the japanese release, plus 4 of the above songs tacked on.  
note that 4 of these songs ended up on a special 20-25 CD run of cd-r's that were sent out to various venues, in the process of booking the fall 1999 [[The Special Goodness|SG]] tour. Those cd-r's have the 10 songs from the japanese release, plus 4 of the above songs tacked on.  


==Summer '99 : first Special Goodness shows (mini-"tour")==
==Summer '99 : first Special Goodness shows (mini-"tour")==
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==summer 1999: Space Twins Demo==
==summer 1999: Space Twins Demo==
*rust colored sun
*"[[Rust Colored Sun]]"
*theres always tomorrow
*"[[There's Always Tomorrow]]"
*louder than lies
*"[[Louder Than Lies]]"
this is a cd demo, "space twins" and a contact # is printed on the disc
this is a cd demo, "space twins" and a contact # is printed on the disc


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unknown date, location, and set list, except for:
unknown date, location, and set list, except for:


*louder than lies
*"[[Louder Than Lies]]"


==summer (fall?) 1999: Space Twins demo==
==summer (fall?) 1999: Space Twins demo==
Brian had a small run of CD's pressed up for this demo. (25?)
Brian had a small run of CD's pressed up for this demo. (25?)


*rust colored sun
*"[[Rust Colored Sun]]"
*rings of saturn
*"[[Rings of Saturn]]"
*theres always tomorrow
*"[[There's Always Tomorrow]]"
*on the other side
*"[[On the Other Side]]"
*butterfly collector
*"[[Butterfly Collector]]"
*goddess of love
*"[[Goddess of Love]]"


all the versions on this are quite different from earlier demos and 7"s
all the versions on this are quite different from earlier demos and 7"s
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note: some cd's of this have only 5 songs, i dont know which song is absent on those.
note: some cd's of this have only 5 songs, i dont know which song is absent on those.


these are cd demos, "space twins" and a contact # are printed on the discs
these are cd demos, "[[Space Twins|space twins]]" and a contact # are printed on the discs


==October/November '99 : Special Goodness tour bootlegs==
==October/November '99 : Special Goodness tour bootlegs==
If you know of other audio or video bootlegs, contact karl
If you know of other audio or video bootlegs, contact [[Karl|karl]]


10-26-99 - Rutgers U., NJ : post show backstage interview with the band, aired on college station WMCX on 11/4/99.
10-26-99 - Rutgers U., NJ : post show backstage interview with the band, aired on college station WMCX on 11/4/99.


10/29/99 - Boston, Mass.-The Middle East : video bootleg
10/29/99 - Boston, Mass.-The Middle East : video bootleg
*It's Only Natural (beginning is cut off)  
*"[[It's Only Natural]]" (beginning is cut off)  
* Life Goes By  
*"[[Life Goes By]]"
* Fatigue  
*"[[Fatigue]]"
* No Reason To Worry  
*"[[Reason to Worry]]"
* Conquistadors of Nothing  
*"[[Conquistadors Of Nothing]]"
*What You're On  
*"[[What You're On]]"
* Riff  
* Riff  
* I'm Not Too Proud  
*"[[I'm Not Too Proud]]"
* It's All Here In This Book
*"[[It's All Here In This Book]]"


11/2/99 Pittsburgh - Club Laga : includes the "weezer karaoke" encore. some mp3s exist.  
11/2/99 Pittsburgh - Club Laga : includes the "weezer karaoke" encore. some mp3s exist.  
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Space Twins setlist:
Space Twins setlist:


Osaka Aquabus<br>
"[[Osaka Aquabus]]"<br>
Louder Than Lies<br>
"[[Louder Than Lies]]"<br>
Rings of Saturn<br>
"[[Rings of Saturn]]"<br>
Burn in Black<br>
"[[Burn in Black]]"<br>
Rust Colored Sun<br>
"[[Rust Colored Sun]]"<br>
Goddess of Love<br>
"[[Goddess of Love]]"<br>
Final Voyage
"[[Final Voyage]]"


The Special Goodness setlist:
The Special Goodness setlist:


It's Only Natural<br>
"[[It's Only Natural]]"<br>
What You're On<br>
"[[What You're On]]"<br>
Fatigue<br>
"[[Fatigue]]"<br>
Pardon Me<br>
"[[Pardon Me]]"<br>
Conquistadors<br>
"[[Conquistadors Of Nothing]]"<br>
B.S.<br>
"[[B.S.]]"<br>
What You Can Forget<br>
"[[What You Can Forget]]"<br>
Reasons To Worry<br>
"[[Reason to Worry]]"<br>
Let's Go Down<br>
"[[Let's Go Down]]"<br>
I'm With You Sista<br>
"[[I'm With You Sister]]"<br>
RIFF<br>
RIFF<br>
Went Down Swinging<br>
"[[Went Down Swinging]]"<br>
Life Goes By<br>
"[[Life Goes By]]"<br>
I'm Not Too Proud<br>
"[[I'm Not Too Proud]]"<br>
It's All Here In This Book  
"[[It's All Here In This Book]]"


Note that the shows from Austin TX (11/19/99) through Seattle WA (11/27/99) were documented extensively by members and staff of the opening band, Eureka Farm. They videotaped and audiotaped many SG sets, but their tapes are now in private hands.
Note that the shows from Austin TX (11/19/99) through Seattle WA (11/27/99) were documented extensively by members and staff of the opening band, Eureka Farm. They videotaped and audiotaped many [[the Special Goodness|SG]] sets, but their tapes are now in private hands.


if anyone knows of other recordings of any of these shows, tape or video, please let karl know.
if anyone knows of other recordings of any of these shows, tape or video, please let [[Karl|karl]] know.