Interview between Rivers Cuomo and Joe Matt: Difference between revisions

Cake decided to get these two together to discuss each artist's influence on the other and how "the man behind the man" is often an influence outsideone's own genre. With Joe Matt fairly taking the role of interviewer, after two hours, this topic had been only marginally touched upon. After wadingthrough yards of tape on pornography, Howard Stern, sex, and the perils offame and confessional work, I chose the opening discourse and that slicewhich best exemplifies their differences anddistinct personalities.

{{Joe Matt|I'm just itching to move, but nothing pulls me away. I would love to meetsome girl . . . I would move anywhere if I met a girl in another city. I cant think of any other reason to move.}}

{{Joe Matt|No I had a girlfriend for 11 months and she just dumped me a month ago onmy birthday. I havent seen her in almost two months now. One day, she just said, "Go away. I don't want to see you for a awhile." And I got a phone call a few weeks later saying it's all over. C'est la vie.}}

{{Joe Matt|Yeah, I wasn't upset though. I kinda saw the futility in getting myselfall upset, so I just skipped over it. I was real lucky this time.}}

{{Rivers|I've avoided [being in love] for that last seven years. I had two really stupid loves at the end of my teen years. Than I moved to L.A. and I tried to become a rock star, and while you're doing that it's kind of cool not tohave a girlfriend, if you're out in bars every night promoting your shows and meeting people. So I was having fun. And then I actually became a rockstar and at that point really didn't need a girl friend.}}

{{Rivers|It doesn't bother me [that I've slept with forty girls]. It doesn't seemlike a lot to me. If I'm in a new city every night and playing for thousands of girls every night. And I have sex with say thirty girls in two years, that's not a lot at all.}}

{{Rivers|When we first became popular, I had a really hard time accepting this lifestyle. It kinda reminds me of that episode (of Peepshow) where you'rewith those two girls, and suddenly you find yourself incapable of taking advantage of the situation even though it's what you'd always dreamed of? That's kind of like what I was going through the first year of stardom. And then with the assistance of increased alcohol consumption....}}

{{Joe Matt|You think it was a breakthrough. It seems more like a double-edged sword. The curse of having your wishes fulfilled. I mean even in my comicwhen I am with those two girls, that situation was totally fictional. Itnever happened. I made it up because it seemed like a good thing to put in the story... a nice way to provide closure (to a Poor Bastard.) I threw it in because it seemed like such a downward spiral. I just seemed logicalsomehow. I regret it now because its one of the few fictional elements in my comics. It's a fantasy to be with two girls, but in reality, I don't think I'd be too interested. It would just be too weird. I don't know. How was it for you Rivers? Was it weird?}}

{{Rivers|[I've had] two girls several times, and generally that is good becausethe girls are there just to have fun, there's no hang ups. The most I've been with is four and that was interesting and fun but the sex wasn't all that good.}}

{{Rivers|There was this one time in Japan that was really emotional for me because this is when I was first starting to figure all this stuff out about being really aggressive. I'd been in Japan for a week and every night there were ten or fifteen girls in my room and nothing happened because I wasn't confident enough to say "Let's have sex or get out of the room." So finally, at the end of my stay there I said, "Whoever wants to stay in the room has to take their clothes off and get on the bed."and most of them left but four of them stayed. It was a very difficult step for me to take but I hadto take it. It was the truth about what I wanted.}}

{{Rivers|I could achieve all of my artist goals in my basement , but when go outthere and rock and try to meet girls, it's not really an artistic thing.}}

{{Action|...on subconcious cultural evolution:}}

{{Joe Matt|You're in a whole different world. You're actually having sex with thesegirls. I'm thirty-four and I've only slept with seven women and every time one gets added, I freak out. I hate the number growing. I try so hard tomake the number go backwards. Two or three were just for sex and werejust big regrets. I could have done with out them. I've been with a few girls now where I've just made out with them and been in bed with them an I won't go any further. I just don't want that number getting bigger.}}