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==late Spring 1994: the Suburban Advantage "ep" demo==
==late Spring 1994: the Suburban Advantage "ep" demo==
This was Pat's first "formal" demo tape. he used a Dr. Rhythm drum machine (set on the TR-808 kit) for drums, as an attempt to get a different sound. He made several copies, and gave them to freinds and some industry contacts he had at Geffen and elsewhere. I estimate he made about 8-10 copies.
This was [[Patrick Wilson|Pat's]] first "formal" demo tape. he used a Dr. Rhythm drum machine (set on the TR-808 kit) for drums, as an attempt to get a different sound. He made several copies, and gave them to friends and some industry contacts he had at [[Geffen]] and elsewhere. I estimate he made about 8-10 copies.




{| style="background-color: #80F000"
{| style="background-color: #80F000"
|+"The Suburban Advantage EP"
|+''[[Suburban Advantage|The Suburban Advantage EP]]''
! song !! comments
! song !! comments
|-
|-
| bgcolor="white"|lets go to the mall
| bgcolor="white"|"[[Let's Go to the Mall]]"
| bgcolor="white"|(music later re­used as S.G.'s "Riff") (this is the version that has been bootlegged and traded)
| bgcolor="white"|(music later re­used as [[The Special Goodness|S.G.'s]] "Riff") (this is the version that has been bootlegged and traded)
|-
|-
| bgcolor="white"|i wouldnt say it
| bgcolor="white"|"[[I Wouldn't Say It]]"
| bgcolor="white"|
| bgcolor="white"|
|-
|-
| bgcolor="white"|new wave lullabye
| bgcolor="white"|"[[New Wave Lullybye]]"
| bgcolor="white"|(this is the version that has been bootlegged and traded)
| bgcolor="white"|(this is the version that has been bootlegged and traded)
|-
|-
| bgcolor="white"|if you move away
| bgcolor="white"|"[[If You Move Away]]"
| bgcolor="white"|(this is the version that has been bootlegged and traded)
| bgcolor="white"|(this is the version that has been bootlegged and traded)
|-
|-
| bgcolor="white"|Unfamiliar
| bgcolor="white"|"[[Unfamiliar]]"
| bgcolor="white"|
| bgcolor="white"|
|-
|-
| bgcolor="white"|illegitemus Non Carborundum
| bgcolor="white"|"[[Illegitimus Non Carborundum]]"
| bgcolor="white"|
| bgcolor="white"|
|-
|-
| bgcolor="white"|Bonus track
| bgcolor="white"|"[[Bonus Track]]"
| bgcolor="white"|
| bgcolor="white"|
|}
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==April or May or June 1994 Matt does a 16 (24?) track session in LA==
==April or May or June 1994 Matt does a 16 (24?) track session in LA==
At this point Matt had his first real "solo" recording session, at Rod Cervera's dad's TV voiceover studio "Hellcentro" in Hollywood. Rod played guitar, Pat Wilson played drums, Cherilynn Westrich contributed in some way, and there might have been a Hayden or two involved. At this time, Rod and Cheri were in a band called Magpie with a girl named Debbie Diamond. Later Rod and Cheri would split from Debbie and form Supersport 2000. Matt did about 4-8 songs at this session, which went on "after hours" at the studio (Magpie was doing their demo here too at the same time).
At this point [[Matt]] had his first real "solo" recording session, at [[Rod Cervera|Rod Cervera's]] dad's TV voiceover studio "Hellcentro" in Hollywood. Rod played guitar, [[Pat Wilson]] played drums, [[Cherielynn Westrich]] contributed in some way, and there might have been a Haden or two involved. At this time, Rod and Cheri were in a band called Magpie with a girl named Debbie Diamond. Later Rod and Cheri would split from Debbie and form Supersport 2000. Matt did about 4-8 songs at this session, which went on "after hours" at the studio (Magpie was doing their demo here too at the same time).


I dont recall ever hearing any final results from this. I think they never finished because of Matt's newfound heavy weezer schedule, plus new talk of recording at Poop Alley later in '94.  
I don't recall ever hearing any final results from this. I think they never finished because of Matt's newfound heavy weezer schedule, plus new talk of recording at [[Poop Alley Studios|Poop Alley]] later in '94.  


==Summer 94 : Rivers 8 tracks==
==Summer 94 : Rivers 8 tracks==
It was getting difficult for Rivers to find time in the garage to record, as the blue album had been released in May, and the first weezer tours were happening. The tours were still short affairs, and every few weeks there would be a few days' "down time", which Rivers (and everyone) took advantage of.  
It was getting difficult for [[Rivers]] to find time in [[the garage]] to record, as the ''[[Weezer (The Blue Album)|Blue Album]]'' had been released in May, and the first weezer tours were happening. The tours were still short affairs, and every few weeks there would be a few days' "down time", which Rivers (and everyone) took advantage of.  




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! song !! comments
! song !! comments
|-
|-
| bgcolor="white"|buncha f*ckin noize
| bgcolor="white"|"[[Buncha F*ckin' Noize]]"
| bgcolor="white"|(nonsense)
| bgcolor="white"|(nonsense)
|-
|-
| bgcolor="white"|ill think about you
| bgcolor="white"|"[[I'll Think About You]]"
| bgcolor="white"|(later known as "think about you" or "sesame street", at '97 solo Boston shows)
| bgcolor="white"|(later known as "Think About You" or "Sesame Street", at '97 solo Boston shows)
|-
|-
| bgcolor="white"|there is no other one
| bgcolor="white"|"[[No Other One|There Is No Other One]]"
| bgcolor="white"|(early "no other one")
| bgcolor="white"|(early "No Other One")
|-
|-
| bgcolor="white"|little surfer girl
| bgcolor="white"|"[[Surfer Girl]]"
| bgcolor="white"|Beach Boys cover, complete with full backing harmonies
| bgcolor="white"|Beach Boys cover, complete with full backing harmonies
|-
|-
| bgcolor="white"|saw you in your car
| bgcolor="white"|"[[Saw You In Your Car]]"
| bgcolor="white"|
| bgcolor="white"|
|-
|-
| bgcolor="white"|proto­-devotion
| bgcolor="white"|"Proto­-Devotion"
| bgcolor="white"|(early version, named after Devotion was named)
| bgcolor="white"|(early version, named after "Devotion" was named)
|-
|-
| bgcolor="white"|devotion
| bgcolor="white"|"[[Devotion]]"
| bgcolor="white"|
| bgcolor="white"|
|}
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Cleveland, OH - The Odean - this show has been circulating in trading circles for years. Original source is apparently an audience member with a walkman.
Cleveland, OH - The Odean - this show has been circulating in trading circles for years. Original source is apparently an audience member with a walkman.


#My Name is Jonas
#"[[My Name Is Jonas]]"
#No One Else
#"[[No One Else]]"
#The World Has Turned And Left Me Here
#"[[The World Has Turned and Left Me Here]]"
#Buddy Holly
#"[[Buddy Holly]]"
#In the Garage
#"[[In the Garage]]"
#You Gave Your Love To Me Softly
#"[[You Gave Your Love to Me Softly]]"
#Say It Ain't So
#"[[Say It Ain't So]]"
#Getchoo
#"[[Getchoo]]"
#Undone (The Sweater Song)
#"[[Undone - The Sweater Song]]"


==8/94 ­ live performance on TV: 120 Minutes on MTV ­ New York, NY==
==8/94 ­ live performance on TV: 120 Minutes on MTV ­ New York, NY==
*Undone ­ the Sweater song
*"[[Undone - The Sweater Song]]"


(note: performances also done at the Jon Stewart Show (Undone & Buddy Holly), the Conan O'Brien Show (Undone), and Dave Letterman (Say It Ain't So, 8/95), between this point in time and spring 1995. Video and audio bootlegs created from TV tapings have been circulating for years.
(note: performances also done at the Jon Stewart Show ("Undone" & "[[Buddy Holly]]"), the Conan O'Brien Show ("Undone"), and Dave Letterman ("[[Say It Ain't So]]", 8/95), between this point in time and spring 1995. Video and audio bootlegs created from TV tapings have been circulating for years.


==live show bootleg tape, 8/7/94: Visalia, California : Cody's==
==live show bootleg tape, 8/7/94: Visalia, California : Cody's==
* My name is Jonas
*"[[My Name Is Jonas]]"
* No one else
*"[[No One Else]]"
* The World has turned and left me here
*"[[The World Has Turned and Left Me Here]]"
* Buddy Holly
*"[[Buddy Holly]]"
*In the garage
*"[[In the Garage]]"
*You gave your love to me softly
*"[[You Gave Your Love to Me Softly]]"
*Say it ain't so
*"[[Say It Ain't So]]"
*getchoo
*"[[Getchoo]]"
*Jamie
*"[[Jamie]]"
*Holiday
*"[[Holiday]]"
*Undone ­ the Sweater song
*"[[Undone - The Sweater Song]]"
*Surf Wax America
*"[[Surf Wax America]]"


==late Summer / early Fall '94 : Rivers 8 tracks==
==late Summer / early Fall '94 : Rivers 8 tracks==
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! song !! comments
! song !! comments
|-
|-
| bgcolor="white"|let me wash at your sink
| bgcolor="white"|"[[Let Me Wash At Your Sink]]"
| bgcolor="white"|
| bgcolor="white"|
|-
|-
| bgcolor="white"|walt disney
| bgcolor="white"|"[[Walt Disney]]"
| bgcolor="white"|
| bgcolor="white"|
|-
|-
| bgcolor="white"|defeat on the hill
| bgcolor="white"|"[[Defeat on the Hill]]"
| bgcolor="white"|all­trumpet sequel to "victory on the hill"
| bgcolor="white"|all­trumpet sequel to "[[Victory on the Hill]]"
|-
|-
| bgcolor="white"|wanda, youre my only love
| bgcolor="white"|"[[Wanda (You're My Only Love)]]"
| bgcolor="white"|written for the movie "Angus", never used
| bgcolor="white"|written for the movie ''[[Angus]]'', never used
|-
|-
| bgcolor="white"|im so lonely
| bgcolor="white"|"[[I'm So Lonely]]"
| bgcolor="white"|
| bgcolor="white"|
|-
|-
| bgcolor="white"|lisa
| bgcolor="white"|"[[Lisa]]"
| bgcolor="white"|3rd Rivers "girl" song, never achieved the ranking of "mykel and carli" or "suzanne"
| bgcolor="white"|3rd Rivers "girl" song, never achieved the ranking of "[[Mykel and Carli (Weezer song)|Mykel and Carli]]" or "[[Susanne]]"
|}
|}




==Summer '94 : B side session, LA==
==Summer '94 : B side session, LA==
Undone was scheduled for release in Australia, and B-sides were called for. The guys recorded at 2 studios in Hollywood, on 24-track machines. (studio #1 broke, so they had to move). The Electric Lady "Mykel and Carli" was determined to be a difficult thing to salvage (it still had Jason's parts on it, and the guys were playing it now better than they ever had). So they made an all new version.  
"[[Undone]]" was scheduled for release in Australia, and B-sides were called for. The guys recorded at 2 studios in Hollywood, on 24-track machines. (studio #1 broke, so they had to move). The Electric Lady "[[Mykel and Carli (Weezer song)|Mykel and Carli]]" was determined to be a difficult thing to salvage (it still had [[Jason Cropper|Jason's]] parts on it, and the guys were playing it now better than they ever had). So they made an all new version.  


*Mykel and Carli (appeared on many foreign singles, plus the "Hear You Me!" compilation)
*"[[Mykel and Carli (Weezer song)|Mykel and Carli]]" (appeared on many foreign singles, plus the ''[[Hear You Me! A Tribute to Mykel and Carli|Hear You Me!]]'' compilation)
*Suzanne (the mix done here appeared on many foreign singles, it was later remixed in August 1995, at Electric Lady in NYC, for the "Mallrats" soundtrack)
*"[[Susanne]]" (the mix done here appeared on many foreign singles, it was later remixed in August 1995, at Electric Lady in NYC, for the ''[[Mallrats]]'' soundtrack)
*My Evaline (listed as "sweet adeline" on the singles)
*"[[My Evaline]]" (listed as "Sweet Adeline" on the singles)


Note that most Undone Promotional CD singles contain an erroneous short radio edit of "Undone", where the guitar solo in the middle is cut way short. (correct = 4:10, incorrect = 3:58) These incorrect ones outnumber the "good" ones, so are easier to find in fact. As it turns out, most radio stations played the album version anyway, so no one seemed to notice except the band.  
Note that most Undone Promotional CD singles contain an erroneous short radio edit of "Undone", where the guitar solo in the middle is cut way short. (correct = 4:10, incorrect = 3:58) These incorrect ones outnumber the "good" ones, so are easier to find in fact. As it turns out, most radio stations played the album version anyway, so no one seemed to notice except the band.  
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==Radio station performance , 8/15/94 Washington, DC­ whfs ­ tracklist unavailable==
==Radio station performance , 8/15/94 Washington, DC­ whfs ­ tracklist unavailable==
==8/16/94 : live show bootleg tape: The Avalon ­ Boston, MA==
==8/16/94 : live show bootleg tape: The Avalon ­ Boston, MA==
*My name is Jonas
*"[[My Name Is Jonas]]"
*No one else
*"[[No One Else]]"
*The World has turned and left me here
*"[[The World Has Turned and Left Me Here]]"
*Buddy Holly
*"[[Buddy Holly]]"
* In the garage
*"[[In the Garage]]"
*Jamie
*"[[Jamie]]"
*Say it ain't so
*"[[Say It Ain't So]]"
*getchoo
*"[[Getchoo]]"
*Holiday
*"[[Holiday]]"
*Undone ­ the Sweater song
*"[[Undone - The Sweater Song]]"
*Surf Wax America
*"[[Surf Wax America]]"


==live show bootleg tape, 8/21/94: Toronto, Canada tracklist unavailable==
==live show bootleg tape, 8/21/94: Toronto, Canada tracklist unavailable==
==live show bootleg tape, 8/22/94: Montreal, Canada tracklist unavailable==
==live show bootleg tape, 8/22/94: Montreal, Canada tracklist unavailable==
==live show bootleg tape, 8/31/94: st louis==
==live show bootleg tape, 8/31/94: st louis==
*No one else
*"[[No One Else]]"
*The World has turned and left me here
*"[[The World Has Turned and Left Me Here]]"
*Buddy Holly
*"[[Buddy Holly]]"
*In the garage
*"[[In the Garage]]"
*Say it ain't so
*"[[Say It Ain't So]]"
*getchoo
*"[[Getchoo]]"
*Holiday
*"[[Holiday]]"
*Undone ­ the Sweater song
*"[[Undone - The Sweater Song]]"
*Surf Wax America
*"[[Surf Wax America]]"


(became part 1 of 'American Holiday' bootleg CD)
(became part 1 of 'American Holiday' bootleg CD)


==live show bootleg tape, 9/9/94: Minneapolis, MN, at First Avenue==
==live show bootleg tape, 9/9/94: Minneapolis, MN, at First Avenue==
#No One Else
#"[[No One Else]]"
#The World Has Turned And Left Me Here
#"[[The World Has Turned and Left Me Here]]"
#Buddy Holly
#"[[Buddy Holly]]"
#In The Garage
#"[[In the Garage]]"
#You Gave Your Love To Me Softly
#"[[You Gave Your Love to Me Softly]]"
#Jamie
#"[[Jamie]]"
#Say It Ain't So
#"[[Say It Ain't So]]"
#Getchoo
#"[[Getchoo]]"
#Holiday
#"[[Holiday]]"
#Undone (The Sweater Song)
#"[[Undone - The Sweater Song]]"
#Surf Wax America
#"[[Surf Wax America]]"
#Only In Dreams
#"[[Only in Dreams]]"
#Tired Of Sex
#"[[Tired of Sex]]"


(this bootleg was used for the 'rock candy' bootleg CD. its considered one of the better sounding early live weezer bootlegs)
(this bootleg was used for the ''Rock Candy'' bootleg CD. its considered one of the better sounding early live weezer bootlegs)


==note re: video material==
==note re: video material==
Starting around October '94, there is a sudden and dramatic increase in the amount of video documentation of the band in action. Karl was taking home movies on the road, and countless tv interviews and live footage was being shot before and during shows. It would be nearly impossible to accurately get a handle on all this stuff, but accurate info will be added where possible.  
Starting around October '94, there is a sudden and dramatic increase in the amount of video documentation of the band in action. [[Karl]] was taking home movies on the road, and countless tv interviews and live footage was being shot before and during shows. It would be nearly impossible to accurately get a handle on all this stuff, but accurate info will be added where possible.  


==live show bootleg tape, 10/11/94: Cleveland , OH tracklist unavailable==
==live show bootleg tape, 10/11/94: Cleveland , OH tracklist unavailable==
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acoustic session at the radio station.
acoustic session at the radio station.


*In the garage
*"[[In the Garage]]"
* Buddy Holly
*"[[Buddy Holly]]"


note that some bootleg lists have noted that the Pinkerton track "Butterfly" was played as well. this info has been proven incorrect. ('Butterfly' was not written until 1996)
note that some bootleg lists have noted that the ''[[Pinkerton]]'' track "[[Butterfly]]" was played as well. this info has been proven incorrect. ("Butterfly" was not written until 1996)


==live show bootleg tape, 12/4/94: New Britain, CT at The Sting club==
==live show bootleg tape, 12/4/94: New Britain, CT at The Sting club==
*My name is Jonas
*"[[My Name Is Jonas]]"
*No one else
*"[[No One Else]]"
*The World has turned and left me here
*"[[The World Has Turned and Left Me Here]]"
*Buddy Holly
*"[[Buddy Holly]]"
*In the garage
*"[[In the Garage]]"
*Say it aint so
*"[[Say It Ain't So]]"
*Jamie
*"[[Jamie]]"
*getchoo
*"[[Getchoo]]"
*Only in dreams
*"[[Only in Dreams]]"
*Undone ­ the Sweater song
*"[[Undone - The Sweater Song]]"
*Surf Wax America
*"[[Surf Wax America]]"


This became used for the "Geezer" bootleg CD
This became used for the ''Geezer'' bootleg CD


==live show bootleg tape, 12/5/94: NYC, NY , Madison Square Garden==
==live show bootleg tape, 12/5/94: NYC, NY , Madison Square Garden==
*My name is Jonas
*"[[My Name Is Jonas]]"
*No one else
*"[[No One Else]]"
*The World has turned and left me here
*"[[The World Has Turned and Left Me Here]]"
*Buddy Holly
*"[[Buddy Holly]]"
*Jamie
*"[[Jamie]]"
*Say it ain't so
*"[[Say It Ain't So]]"
*Undone ­ the Sweater song
*"[[Undone - The Sweater Song]]"
*Surf Wax America
*"[[Surf Wax America]]"


(This comprises the second half of the 'American Holiday' bootleg CD)
(This comprises the second half of the ''American Holiday'' bootleg CD)


==live show bootleg tape, 12/10/94: Los Angeles, CA , Universal Ampitheatre==
==live show bootleg tape, 12/10/94: Los Angeles, CA , Universal Ampitheatre==
tracklist unavailable. show was broadcast live on KROQ
tracklist unavailable. show was broadcast live on [[KROQ]]


==Radio station performance (interview) , 12/94 Modern Rock Live (done in LA, broadcast nationally)==
==Radio station performance (interview) , 12/94 Modern Rock Live (done in LA, broadcast nationally)==
*Undone ­ the Sweater song
*"[[Undone - The Sweater Song]]"
* Buddy Holly
*"[[Buddy Holly]]"




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