The Victor

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"The Victor"
The Victor cover
Demo by Weezer
Album Alone VIII: The Maladroit Years
Released 2002
Format MP3
Recorded 2002
Writer(s) Rivers Cuomo
RC# 688
COR# 348
Status Demo circulating
Rivers Cuomo song chronology
"Say You Will"
(RC# 687)
"The Victor"
(RC# 688)
"In Your Arms"
(RC# 689)

"The Victor" (formerly "Beneath the Sun") is a song demoed by Weezer in 2002 in early contention for the band's planned fifth album.

Appearances

Overview

Rivers Cuomo recorded the initial demo, "Beneath the Sun," to an Olympus handheld digital recorder in 2001.[1][2] Following completion on the band's fourth album, Maladroit, Weezer immediately began work on a planned fifth album, recording new demos throughout the spring and summer of 2002. Three demos of "The Victor" were shared with fans on the band's official website. Ultimately, all of the demos from the aforementioned sessions were scrapped, and the band's fifth album would not see release until 2005.

Cuomo's original demo ("Beneath the Sun") was released in November of 2020 as part of the digital demo compilation Alone VIII: The Maladroit Years.

Known recordings

Performer(s) Title Filename Date of recording Recording location Length Appeared on Notes
Rivers Cuomo Beneath the Sun 348 Beneath The Sun.mp3 2001 3:15 Alone VIII: The Maladroit Years
Weezer The Victor March 5, 2002[3] Westlake Studios, West Hollywood, CA
Weezer The Victor weezer-2002-04-22_the_victor_348.mp3 April 22, 2002 Cello Studios, Los Angeles, CA 3:58 Released on weezer.com
Weezer The Victor weezer-2002-07-02_the_victor_348.mp3 July 2, 2002 Sunset Sound Studios, Los Angeles, CA 2:31 Released on weezer.com
Weezer The Victor weezer-2002-07-02_the_victor_348.mp3 July 16, 2002 The Lodge Recording Studios, Indianapolis, IN 2:17 Released on weezer.com
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Lyrics

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April 22, 2002

You like me, I like you
And we're lying beneath the sun
The words that you told me have become
A dagger in my back
And the battle is all but won
Cry for the victor, 'cause she's done

Taking off your clothes was all that you could do
To hurt me back so bad when I was hurting you

Taking off your clothes was all that you could do
To hurt me back so bad when I was hurting you

A dagger in my back
And the battle is all but won
I like you and we're lying beneath the sun
I like you and we're lying beneath the sun
Whoa

July 2, 2002

Do you see the good times
And the positive plans we made?
We had a connection that I'll crave
When I felt cold and blue
You could turn it into a smile
Bleak pessimism was our style

Now you're bent on doing all that you can do
To hurt me back so bad while I am hurting you

Now you're bent on doing all that you can do
To hurt me back so bad while I am hurting you

Taller men can observe
And predict the smartest moves
So we jump and we stretch
But we can't see out of our bruise(?)
Whoa

July 16, 2002

Remember the good times
And the laughing plans we made?
We had a connection that I'll crave
When I felt cold and blue
You could turn it into a smile
Bleak pessimism was our style

Taking off your clothes is all that you can do
To hurt me back so bad while I am hurting you

Taking off your clothes is all that you can do
To hurt me back so bad while I am hurting you

Taller men will observe
And predict the smartest moves
So we jump and we stretch
But we can't see above our bruise(?)
Whoa

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