The Victor

"The Victor"
Demo by Weezer
Album	Alone VIII: The Maladroit Years
Released	2002
Format	MP3
Recorded	2002
Writer(s)	Rivers Cuomo
RC#	688
COR#	348
Status	Demo circulating
Rivers Cuomo song chronology
"Say You Will" (RC# 687) "The Victor" (RC# 688) "In Your Arms" (RC# 689)

"The Victor" (formerly "Beneath the Sun") is a song demoed by Weezer in 2002 in early contention for the band's planned fifth album.

Appearances

• MP3s released on weezer.com
• Alone VIII: The Maladroit Years (2020)

Overview

Rivers Cuomo recorded the initial demo, "Beneath the Sun," to an Olympus handheld digital recorder in 2001. Following completion on the band's fourth album, Maladroit, Weezer immediately began work on a planned fifth album, recording new demos throughout the spring and summer of 2002. Three demos of "The Victor" were shared with fans on the band's official website. Ultimately, all of the demos from the aforementioned sessions were scrapped, and the band's fifth album would not see release until 2005.

Cuomo's original demo ("Beneath the Sun") was released in November of 2020 as part of the digital demo compilation Alone VIII: The Maladroit Years.

Known recordings

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Performer(s)	Title	Filename	Date of recording	Recording location	Length	Appeared on	Notes
Rivers Cuomo	Beneath the Sun	348 Beneath The Sun.mp3	2001		3:15	Alone VIII: The Maladroit Years
Weezer	The Victor		March 5, 2002	Westlake Studios, West Hollywood, CA
Weezer	The Victor	weezer-2002-04-22_the_victor_348.mp3	April 22, 2002	Cello Studios, Los Angeles, CA	3:58	Released on weezer.com
Weezer	The Victor	weezer-2002-07-02_the_victor_348.mp3	July 2, 2002	Sunset Sound Studios, Los Angeles, CA	2:31	Released on weezer.com
Weezer	The Victor	weezer-2002-07-02_the_victor_348.mp3	July 16, 2002	The Lodge Recording Studios, Indianapolis, IN	2:17	Released on weezer.com

Personnel

• Rivers Cuomo - lead guitar, lead vocals
• Brian Bell - rhythm guitar, backing vocals
• Scott Shriner - bass, backing vocals
• Patrick Wilson - drums
• Ryan "Shmedly" Maynes - piano

Lyrics

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April 22, 2002 You like me, I like you And we're lying beneath the sun The words that you told me have become A dagger in my back And the battle is all but won Cry for the victor, 'cause she's done Taking off your clothes was all that you could do To hurt me back so bad when I was hurting you Taking off your clothes was all that you could do To hurt me back so bad when I was hurting you A dagger in my back And the battle is all but won I like you and we're lying beneath the sun I like you and we're lying beneath the sun Whoa

July 2, 2002 Do you see the good times And the positive plans we made? We had a connection that I'll crave When I felt cold and blue You could turn it into a smile Bleak pessimism was our style Now you're bent on doing all that you can do To hurt me back so bad while I am hurting you Now you're bent on doing all that you can do To hurt me back so bad while I am hurting you Taller men can observe And predict the smartest moves So we jump and we stretch But we can't see out of our bruise(?) Whoa

July 16, 2002 Remember the good times And the laughing plans we made? We had a connection that I'll crave When I felt cold and blue You could turn it into a smile Bleak pessimism was our style Taking off your clothes is all that you can do To hurt me back so bad while I am hurting you Taking off your clothes is all that you can do To hurt me back so bad while I am hurting you Taller men will observe And predict the smartest moves So we jump and we stretch But we can't see above our bruise(?) Whoa

See Also

• Album 5 demos
• List of Weezer songs