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1/1/00 - about March 2000: continued RIVERS DEMOS

Rivers just kept going into 2000, cranking out another pile of demos, this time at his new house in L.A. Again, there were a good deal of more song attempts that didn't get far enough to warrant getting made into a demo, and for each of the ones that did make it to this level, there exists multiple versions of on tape, as they were refined.

march 2000 : Special Goodness spring tour

3/22/00 Denver : Bluebird Theatre --- show is videotaped
3/23/00 Salt Lake City : Kilby Court --- show is videotaped

if anyone knows of other recordings of any of these shows, tape or video, let me know...

March 2000 : Special Goodness demos:

...These were recorded by Pat, at home in Portland, just before heading to LA for the new weezer rehersal sessions....about 20 CD copies were made and distributed to people at record companies.

April 2000 through June 2000: NEW Weezer rehersals, group demos recorded

Various DA-88 recordings were made by the band in this period, for purposes of self-review. They were multitracked with some overdubs added (extra guitar and vocals)

Session #1: Recorded at Cole Rehersals, L.A.; 5/3/00

Session #2: Recorded at Cole Rehersals, L.A.; 5/3/00

Session #3: Recorded at Cole Rehersals, L.A.; 6/??/00

Session #4: Recorded at Cole Rehersals, L.A.; 7/??/00

Summer 2000: Tour Demos

recorded live with a mobile unit during soundchecks and sometimes the shows themselves. These demos were compiled from hundreds of hours of recordings. Most of the post-warped tour US shows in summer/fall 2000 were fully recorded on the mobile 8 track unit, including the soundchecks, which is when the new songs were demo'd.

Tour Demos Set #1, 7/00:

Tour Demos Set #2,"Summer Demos"; 9/00:

Summer/Fall Tour 2000 bootlegs

There are numerous bootlegs of these shows that have been traded extensively as tapes, Mini Disc, cd-r's and especially Mp3's. Most of the "new summer songs" that were played live seem to have been made widely available in mp3 format, with the exception of ""On the Edge"", which was apparently only performed in front of an audience at the Milwaukee show at Eagles in September. A portion of this performance was posted in my video clip from that show, which has since been converted into an incomplete mp3. But no full version has surfaced in trading circles. The following songs made it to the public as live mp3s.

  1. "My Brain"
  2. "O Girl"
  3. "Dope Nose"
  4. "Ev'ry Nite"
  5. "Hash Pipe"
  6. "Mad Kow"
  7. "Modern Dukes"
  8. "Preacher's Son"
  9. "Slob"
  10. "Superstar"
  11. "Too Late to Try"
  12. "Your Sister" (AKA "The Sister Song")
  13. "Peace and Quiet"

additionally, three of those songs also made it out as "soundboard" recordings. I strongly doubt that they originate from the live 8-track private band recordings we were making, as in their raw form they require a "mixing down" session to become listenable. As all of the tapes have been kept private I can't see that having happened. However, often there is a tape deck or whatever hooked into a venues "in-house" soundboard system, which were often being utilized last year. (These days weezer carries all of its own sound gear stuff, at least in the USA). So a venue employee could have taped a show or soundcheck and then let some songs go. The three "soundboard quality" mp3s out there are:

Special note: on 11/17/01, the following 'summer songs 2000' were released via the (now defunct) fan site, www.summersongs2k.com. They were given to the owner of that site to release, instead of putting them directly on weezer.com. These are what is widely known as the 'edited versions', in that they were in some cases trimmed down and/or rearranged via digital editing, under the decisions of Rivers, who after over a year had finally determined what was structurally incorrect (in his writers perspective) with the original 2000 structures, and wanted to release the definitive versions. The source material is the demo and live recordings done in the summer of 2000, though what exact recordings they are culled from is unclear. As some of these new definitive versions were in fact shorter than versions that had been circulating amongst fans for over a year, there was a bit of an outcry, and amongst some a "rebellion", treating the new, official and 'correct' versions as aberrations.

  1. "Dope Nose" (177- summer 2000)
  2. "Mad Kow" (192 - summer 2000)
  3. "Modern Dukes" (190 - summer 2000)
  4. "O Girl" (170 - summer 2000)
  5. "On the Edge" (196 - summer 2000)
  6. "Preacher's Son" (186 - summer 2000)
  7. "Too Late to Try" (195 - summer 2000)
  8. "Superstar" (197 - summer 2000)
  9. "The Sister Song" (198 - summer 2000)
  10. "Slob" (188 - summer 2000)
  1. summer/fall 2000 show "Brady" AKA "intro music". attendees of certain shows in 2000 may recognize this 'Brady Bunch' sound collage that Pat and Karl assembled.
  1. Additionally a 'bonus track' was released with these mp3s, culled from a new videotape recording done backstage on tour in the fall of '01. "Been In The Storm", as originally seen in the Fall 2000 home videoclips released on the A-V page. This was considered a sort of "SS2k Album b-side", as it was originally seen back when the 'SS2K' songs were first circulating.

Note that as of spring 2000 onward to the present, the bands home movies (shot by karl) are nearly ubiquitous, with nearly every show at least partially documented from either the stage or front of house, plus numerous soundchecks, rehearsals and recording sessions. The volume of footage is dauntingly large, yet there are curious and unfortunate gaps from time to time, when either karl, a video camera, or both were not available. The 2000 footage is spotty in places mostly because karl was still working on the stage as a backline and guitar tech, so sometimes an additional assistant was in place to film, and other times karl had to 'double duty' on camera and tech work, resulting in often sketchy tapes. A note from the Summer 2000 Tour manager and Front Of House sound mixer, Neil Young (not THAT Neil Young!), who was also recruited as an engineer during the October 2000 pre-Green Album band demos done in Rivers' home studio (see below for more on that).

"... to see the Summer 2000 demos up on the site...brought me back to huddling down behind one of the front of house racks with the headphones on trying to mix the previous days recordings over the din of sound check...or the recording rack sitting in the parking lot of Circus Circus in Vegas in 100 degree heat while Rivers and I listened down to stuff...pretty bare bones back then but definitely fun. If you guys put up the October demos, you definitely have my vote for at least "Homely"...I think that's the title. It wound up being the best sounding track of those demos albeit dare I say, not too lyrically involved. Well, it was the very last song I recorded and mixed with them and finally Rivers and I found the secret of making the 8 track demos sound better..."

6/16/00 - Live show audience bootleg: Santa Barbara, CA - The Yucatan

  1. "My Name Is Jonas"
  2. "El Scorcho"
  3. "No One Else"
  4. "My Brain"
  5. "Preacher's Son"
  6. "In the Garage"
  7. "O Girl"
  8. "Hash Pipe"
  9. "Tired of Sex"
  10. "Say It Ain't So"
  11. "Undone - The Sweater Song"
  12. "Buddy Holly"
  13. "Surf Wax America"

There is also a video bootleg of this show, that has not surfaced in trading circles. However, Mike Takahashi's fan bootleg video of "My Brain" was included on the weezer DVD, with audio enhanced via syncing up with the audio bootleg listed above.
There is a band videotape of this show as well (previously forgotten/lost until late 2004)

6/17/00 - Live show audience bootleg: Bakersfield, CA - Jerry's Pizza

(tracklist unknown)

6/24/00 - Live show audience bootleg: San Diego, CA - Coors Ampitheatre (Warped Tour)

  1. "My Name Is Jonas"
  2. "El Scorcho"
  3. "No One Else"
  4. "Say It Ain't So"
  5. "In the Garage"
  6. "Buddy Holly"
  7. "Undone - The Sweater Song"
  8. "Surf Wax America"
  9. "Tired of Sex"

7/04/00 - Live show audience bootleg: Pomona, CA - The Glass House

  1. Intro
  2. "My Name Is Jonas"
  3. "El Scorcho"
  4. "No One Else"
  5. "Dope Nose"
  6. "My Brain"
  7. "In the Garage"
  8. "Getchoo"
  9. "Say It Ain't So"
  10. "Hash Pipe"
  11. "Slob"
  12. "Tired of Sex"
  13. "Susanne"
  14. "Undone - The Sweater Song"
  15. "Holiday"
  16. "Buddy Holly"
  17. "Surf Wax America" + Outro

7/23/00 - Live show audience bootleg: Seattle, WA - The Showbox

  1. Intro
  2. "My Name Is Jonas"
  3. "El Scorcho"
  4. "No One Else"
  5. "You Gave Your Love to Me Softly"
  6. "Mad Kow"
  7. "Modern Dukes"
  8. "In the Garage"
  9. "Why Bother?"
  10. "Say It Ain't So"
  11. "Too Late to Try"
  12. "Slob"
  13. "Tired of Sex"
  14. "Susanne"
  15. "Undone - The Sweater Song"
  16. (Audience - not a song - pre encore)
  17. "Holiday"
  18. "Buddy Holly"
  19. "Surf Wax America"

7/26/00 - Live show audience bootleg: San Jose, CA - The Cactus Club

  1. "My Name Is Jonas"
  2. "El Scorcho"
  3. "No One Else"
  4. "You Gave Your Love to Me Softly"
  5. "Mad Kow"
  6. "Superstar"
  7. "In the Garage"
  8. "Why Bother?"
  9. "Say It Ain't So"
  10. "Too Late to Try"
  11. "Slob"
  12. "Tired of Sex"
  13. "Susanne"
  14. "Undone - The Sweater Song"
  15. "Holiday"
  16. "Buddy Holly"
  17. "Surf Wax America"

7/28/00 - Live show audience bootleg: Sacremento, CA - The Crest Theatre

  1. "My Name Is Jonas"
  2. "El Scorcho"
  3. "No One Else"
  4. "You Gave Your Love to Me Softly"
  5. "Yore Sister"
  6. "In the Garage"
  7. "Why Bother?"
  8. "Say It Ain't So"
  9. "Too Late to Try"
  10. "Slob"
  11. "Tired of Sex"
  12. "Susanne"
  13. "Undone - The Sweater Song"
  14. "Holiday"
  15. "Buddy Holly"
  16. "Surf Wax America"

7/30/00 - Live show audience bootleg: Hollywood, CA - The Troubadour

details unknown

8/27/00 - Live show audience bootleg: Providence, RI - Lupo's

details unknown

8/31/00 - Live show audience bootleg: Toronto, ON - The Phoenix

details unknown

9/03/00 - Live show audience bootleg: Chicago, IL - The Metro

details unknown

9/09/00 - Live show audience bootleg: Tulsa, OK - Cains Ballroom

details unknown

"October Demos" Post-touring demos at Rivers's home studio.

These demos are culled from numerous DA-88 8-Track master tapes, and represent the best version recorded at the time. Multiple alternate, unused and abandoned takes of each of the below songs exist, representing many days spent working full time in the little studio throughout much of October.

(keen-eyed observers may note the absence of "Move It On" from this list, the track originally recorded for the KROQ Kevin And Bean Chrisrtmas CD. This track was never fully completed, as the band scrambled on to complete the Christmas Song in time. These listing list only the songs that were finished and mixed down, so "Move It On", along with numerous other songs, remain on master tapes unfinished and unlisted until/unless they reach a "final" state.)

"November Demos" Continued demos made at Rivers's home studio.

These demos are culled from numerous DA-88 8-Track master tapes, and represent the best version recorded at the time. Multiple alternate, unused and abandoned takes of each of the below songs exist.

"December Demos" More continued demos made at Rivers's home studio.

These demos are culled from numerous DA-88 8-Track master tapes, and represent the best version recorded at the time. Most of these songs are new attempts at songs demo'd in October and November, with the notable exception of "Island in the Sun", seeing tape for the first time since Rivers's first demo of it in 1999.

12/14/00 Rehersal at Swing House Studios

under Ric Ocasek's supervision, various songs were demo'd repeatedly, trying out variations in structure and feel. Numerous DAT tapes were recorded over the course of about a week, these songs in particular were copied over to review.

12/17/00 - Live show audience bootleg: KROQ Almost Acoustic Christmas

details unknown

Late December "Last Minute Demos"

12/21/00 Demo at Rivers's Studio

The first of 4 "last minute demos", made in an attempt to nail down the structures of some songs and try and determine if certain songs were "in" or "out"

12/22/00 Demo at S.I.R., Los Angeles

The second of 4 "last minute demos", made in an attempt to nail down the structures of some songs and try and determine if certain songs were "in" or "out"

12/23/00 Demo at S.I.R., Los Angeles

The third of 4 "last minute demos", made in an attempt to nail down the structures of some songs and try and determine if certain songs were "in" or "out"

12/26/00 Demo at S.I.R., Los Angeles

The fourth of 4 "last minute demos", made in an attempt to nail down the structures of some songs and try and determine if certain songs were "in" or "out"


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